Episode 71

071 Dr Harvey Rosenstock and Daniel Shepley - Somewhere Over The Rainbow: Trust, Understanding & Relationships in Psychiatry

Published on: 4th August, 2022

Dr. Harvey Rosenstock has practiced psychiatry for more than sixty years. He also became an ordained rabbi at the tender age of 73. Daniel Shepley is currently a contract specialist for the United States Navy, has two degrees from Penn State, and is the author of The Other Side of Sanity.

Today, they both join Dr. Flowers to share the incredible story of how they entered each other’s lives, what inspired Dr. Harvey to pursue psychiatry and why comprehensive diagnostic evaluations are key to healing.

Key Takeaways

01:28 – Dr Harvey Rosenstock and Daniel Shepley join the show to share the incredible story of how they met and how they established a therapeutic alliance

09:34 – The importance of trust

13:21 – A passive-aggressive upbringing

16:57 – How Dr. Harvey and Daniel’s relationship has evolved over the years

19:05 – What inspired Dr. Harvey to pursue psychiatry

23:17 – What was different about Dr. Harvey’s relationship with Daniel

29:24 – Why nothing is impossible

33:59 – What the future holds for Daniel

35:23 – Dr. Flowers thanks Dr. Rosenstock and Daniel for joining today’s show and ends with some words on Comprehensive Diagnostic Evaluations

Tweetable Quotes

“He had to come to a psychiatrist to ask for help. So, I felt that this behavior was really a psychotic way of asking for help. Therefore, I didn’t feel that I was in immediate danger because there was a question there. ‘Will you help me?’ And, of course I wanted to help him. That’s what I live for, to help people.”(05:31) (Dr. Harvey)

“A child between zero and four is when their emotional stability gets set. And that was a very unstable time for me, which resulted in mental illness.”(14:24) (Daniel)

“As I understood the dynamics, having had a few thousand patients before, I knew we were going to do ok. I had this belief that wherever you start you can always do better, which is where I am.”(23:46) (Dr. Harvey)

“He saved my life. Not just my life, but other lives as well. What do you say to someone who’s saved your life and stuck with you for twenty to twenty five years?”(25:16) (Harvey)

“Any kind of challenge that I’ve had, it’s been my experience, if we take our time, and carefully think about it, and keep an optimistic outlook, we’re gonna get there.”(29:52) (Dr. Harvey)

Resources Mentioned

JFlowers Health Institute – https://jflowershealth.com/

JFlowers Health Institute Contact – (713) 783-6655

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Daniel’s Book – https://www.amazon.com/Other-Side-Sanity-Daniel-Shepley/dp/1732978700

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